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Djeloan

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Im looking to change the host from the current one, and I've heard good things of hetzner.

As my current host can't properly handle (not even 5) 15 1080p transcodes, im looking for a better alternative.


I know intel has quicksync feature, but im not sure if Xeon CPUs support it.
I don't need a lot of storage, as all of my content is on gDrive.

What would be the best option for me?
Would this Xeon E5-1650 be good enough for me?

Any suggestions are welcome.
 

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Try the EX52-NVME
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dooshbagzz

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Servers with a xx45 or xx75 in the model name also have the features you're after. Try find a v5 or upwards if you can.

E3-1245 or E3-1275 v5 or v6 for example.

Otherwise all the desktop class intel CPUs have what you need. Again, I'd recommend a 6xxx series or later if possible. i7 6700, 7700 etc.
 
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justin30097

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Servers with a xx45 or xx75 in the model name also have the features you're after. Try find a v5 or upwards if you can.

E3-1245 or E3-1275 v5 or v6 for example.

Otherwise all the desktop class intel CPUs have what you need. Again, I'd recommend a 6xxx series or later if possible. i7 6700, 7700 etc.
Just grabbed one of those myself the other day, quicksync is working great no issues . I am more familiar with the xeon line and got a good deal at auction on it. 2x512 nvme in raid 64gb ram $45USD per month
 

Djeloan

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So, i7-6700 should be good for 15+ transcodes?
Can it do x265 well too?
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Which one would be better option for me?
i7-6700 or E3-1275V6

I found them at similiar price, so im not sure which to pick
 

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justin30097

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I would go with E3-1275V6 as its based on kabylake and is a newer cpu using higher memory bandwidth vs the skylake i7-6700. HEVC is also improved in kabylake
 
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Djeloan

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Alright, so i got the E3-1275V6, installed everything, configured and tried to Check if the transcoding is working properly, but im not sure if it is.

So here's example (Screenshots included) :
I tried Transcoding 1file 1080p 40mbit to 1080p 8mbit , and the CPU usages spikes up to 60-70% when starting the playback. Is that normal?
How do i check if Quick Sync is actually working? In tautulli, it says that it's (HW) transcoding.

Im actually not sure this thing could handle 10-15 concurent transcodes actually. Or am i wrong?
 

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dooshbagzz

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Personally I've had 10+ transcodes off of a i7-6700 no problems. From the screenshot of tautulli you posted, it is showing both Hardware decoding as well Hardware encoding, that's the (HW) in brackets, so you should be fine.

Audio is still handled by CPU, so you may notice spikes when you first start transcoding a file.

If you keep seeing high CPU usage, I'd suggest figuring out what process is causing it. Ive never seen load that high from 1 quicksync transcode.
 

justin30097

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Alright, so i got the E3-1275V6, installed everything, configured and tried to Check if the transcoding is working properly, but im not sure if it is.

So here's example (Screenshots included) :
I tried Transcoding 1file 1080p 40mbit to 1080p 8mbit , and the CPU usages spikes up to 60-70% when starting the playback. Is that normal?
How do i check if Quick Sync is actually working? In tautulli, it says that it's (HW) transcoding.

Im actually not sure this thing could handle 10-15 concurent transcodes actually. Or am i wrong?
I have had mine up to 8 transcodes just testing to see if it would and it was fine, I just tried transcoding 4k and cpu isn't high spiking or anything like that in your shot
 

Djeloan

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Maybe the issue is with Audio transcoding, I'll look into it later.

Any suggestions on how to identify problem? Im still noob to Linux/Ubuntu so im not sure how to proceed yet.

Thanks all
 

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Ex 6700 8700 or 9900k will handle fine
6700 does not hardware encode 10 bit (HDR).
8700 or 9900 do, however 9900 still does not have a good Linux driver set to allow effective hardware encoding, especially inside a container.
Right now the 8700 (or similar family) is best bang for buck if you wan x265 and HDR/10bit. If you're "only" doing x264/x265 and SDR than the 6700 is great.
 

justin30097

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6700 does not hardware encode 10 bit (HDR).
8700 or 9900 do, however 9900 still does not have a good Linux driver set to allow effective hardware encoding, especially inside a container.
Right now the 8700 (or similar family) is best bang for buck if you wan x265 and HDR/10bit. If you're "only" doing x264/x265 and SDR than the 6700 is great.
The processor he already has purchased on the server is capable.... E3-1275 v6 should support HEVC and HEVC 10-bit transcoding, so you could do it in hardware on the E3-1275 v6.
 
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Djeloan

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Apr 11, 2020
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Well yes, it's supposed to be able to handle it, but my CPU is still spiking when i start Transcoding, and yes i have enabled HW and it's reporting like it's working.

Is it possible that Audio transcode hits the CPU like that?
 

jk2k

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I've seen on mine audio transcoding hit the cpu fairly hard, although I would have thought it would be light work in the grand scheme of things.
 

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