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nwalters810

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Feb 7, 2019
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I'm a little confused; the attachment says you've disabled remote access but the inline screenshot shows it enabled.
at first glance the other settings look correct.
Can you hit your server from plex.tv?
Sorry, I had the screenshot of the remote access not working in there by accident. I can hit the server from plex.tv, yes.
 

timekills

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Sep 12, 2018
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Two things I noticed, although not sure if they're causing the issue:
1: You only have the page rule for Plex set. The *.TLD/* rule is needed as well
2: Your inside IP is on the .17 subnet. In portainer, in the Plex container, near the bottom it should show what networks it is part of. Most apps will be part of two: "bridge" and "plexguide". Plex should only be on the "plexguide" network. If it is, and that is the .17 subnet, then that's fine. But usually the bridge network is 172.x.17.X and plexguide is 172.x.18.x
 

SirTranceALoT

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Jun 14, 2018
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90 mbps 4k? Dear lord, not even UHD disks go above 50 mbps most of the time. Wich brings me to bitrates. What bitrates does your 4K content have?
 

nwalters810

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Feb 7, 2019
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Two things I noticed, although not sure if they're causing the issue:
1: You only have the page rule for Plex set. The *.TLD/* rule is needed as well
2: Your inside IP is on the .17 subnet. In portainer, in the Plex container, near the bottom it should show what networks it is part of. Most apps will be part of two: "bridge" and "plexguide". Plex should only be on the "plexguide" network. If it is, and that is the .17 subnet, then that's fine. But usually the bridge network is 172.x.17.X and plexguide is 172.x.18.x
I added the second rule. I also removed the bridge network from Plex in portainer and have it sitting just on the plexguide network...but it seems traefik is not giving plex a frontend domain. Is there something I should do to trigger that?

portainer.png

Thanks for all the help!
 

dataoverflow

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Mar 19, 2018
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I added the second rule. I also removed the bridge network from Plex in portainer and have it sitting just on the plexguide network...but it seems traefik is not giving plex a frontend domain. Is there something I should do to trigger that?

View attachment 2985

Thanks for all the help!
That domain is set in the process of setting up either traefik or the plex container I think, it shouldn't be necessary to modify the container.

You know, for me remote access in Plex is not even enabled and it stills works, what you need to do is (if plexguide for some reason hasn't filled this in) go to 'Network' -> and fill in to the 'custom URLs:' https://plex.yourdomain.com:443,http://plex.yourdomain.com:80
 

timekills

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Sep 12, 2018
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You're correct; remote access is not strictly needed when using a content delivery network/front end - whether going through plex.tv or something like Cloudflare.
It's only necessary if you are using your addressable IP directly to the server.
And if you're a*al retentive enough that the red ! bugs you, like me. ;)
 

dataoverflow

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Mar 19, 2018
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90 mbps 4k? Dear lord, not even UHD disks go above 50 mbps most of the time. Wich brings me to bitrates. What bitrates does your 4K content have?
There is 4k content with bitrates ranging from 20 to 90 mbps, 4K content ripped from web streaming services will typically have lower bitrates than UHD remux rips.
 
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SirTranceALoT

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Yes true about the webrips. Except for amazon, most of those aren't quality based.
Code:
Disc Title: THE_MATRIX
Disc Size: 62,899,550,208 bytes
Protection: AACS2
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00800.MPLS 
Size: 61,470,062,592 bytes
Length: 2:16:18.670
Total Bitrate: 60.13 Mbps
Video: MPEG-H HEVC Video / 48844 kbps / 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 Profile 5.1 High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR / BT.2020 /
Video: * MPEG-H HEVC Video / 66 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 Profile 5.1 High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020 /
Audio: English / Dolby Atmos/TrueHD Audio / 7.1-Atmos / 48 kHz / 4868 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Audio: French / Dolby Digital Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Audio: Spanish / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Subtitle: English / 21.152 kbps 
Subtitle: French / 18.109 kbps 
Subtitle: Dutch / 17.658 kbps 
Subtitle: Spanish / 20.236 kbps
This is from the bluray. You can easilly compress to lower then 50 mbps if you know what you're doing. Like this.
Code:
General
Unique ID                                : 286773307985790033736628718731610274557 (0xD7BE87B54B57DCF6C3BD0C022563BAFD)
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4 / Version 2
File size                                : 39.9 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 16 min 19 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 41.9 Mb/s
Movie name                               : The Matrix 1999 2160p UHD HDR x265
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-07 19:41:42
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v23.0.0 ('The Bride Said No') 64-bit
Writing library                          : libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name                          : HDR10
Format profile                           : Main 10[email protected]@High
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 16 min 19 s
Bit rate                                 : 35 954 kb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 1 600 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.244
Stream size                              : 34.2 GiB (86%)
Writing library                          : x265 2.8+1-478bfe2b7673:[Windows][GCC 7.3.0][64 bit] 10bit
Encoding settings                        : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=4 / numa-pools=16 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x1600 / interlace=0 / total-frames=196092 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / no-aud / no-hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / open-gop / min-keyint=23 / keyint=250 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=8 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=40 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / radl=0 / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=2 / tu-intra-depth=2 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=1 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / limit-modes / me=2 / subme=5 / merange=64 / temporal-mvp / weightp / weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=1.80 / psy-rdoq=5.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=1 / crqpoffs=1 / rc=abr / bitrate=36000 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=2 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv-maxrate=160000 / vbv-bufsize=160000 / vbv-init=0.9 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.20 / aq-mode=1 / aq-strength=0.90 / cutree / zone-count=1 / zones: / start-frame=186175 / end-frame=195585 / bitrate-factor=0.700000 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=0 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=0 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(13250,34500)B(7500,3000)R(34000,16000)WP(15635,16450)L(10000000,0) / max-cll=0,0 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr / hdr-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=5 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-mv-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0000 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
And they wen Royal with bitrate still. Point to this is: Buffer, solving playback issues and what not, start at your end with saving bandwidth. Saving bandwidth starts with good compression.
 
M

MrDoob

Guest
O hell ...
Look here >> The Matrix 1999 2160p UHD HDR x265

X265 are always smaller in bitrate and size.

And thats not a 4k Medium.
Thats a REMUX RIP
 

nwalters810

Active
Original poster
Feb 7, 2019
44
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That domain is set in the process of setting up either traefik or the plex container I think, it shouldn't be necessary to modify the container.

You know, for me remote access in Plex is not even enabled and it stills works, what you need to do is (if plexguide for some reason hasn't filled this in) go to 'Network' -> and fill in to the 'custom URLs:' https://plex.yourdomain.com:443,http://plex.yourdomain.com:80
Gotcha...however since the subdomain is not set, does that indicate I'll need to remove/redeploy Plex?
 

SirTranceALoT

Governer
Staff
Jun 14, 2018
319
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Euh... Remux is actually the original video and audiotracks from the bluray put into an MKV container. Basically it's the same since there's no transcoding (re-encoding) being done. And that last snappit is from an x265 encode aswell. Better read the info ;)

Code:
Writing library                          : x265 2.8+1-478bfe2b7673:[Windows][GCC 7.3.0][64 bit] 10bit
x265 compresses better indeed. also due to the 10bit.
 

timmeh

Experienced+
Feb 14, 2019
146
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Hi guys,

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I've delved into the world of 4k and am experiencing buffering for the first time on my Hetzner box :(

Content is on Gdrive and I'm direct steaming at 80 - 120mbps, depending on the film. None are working seamlessly. I have it setup over cloudflare CDN.

A compounding issue is that I've only got my box setup using 1 SSD doing everything (downloading, post-processing, plex reading etc...), and I'm seeing high (max out) disk read/writes in netdata as a result. Is this likely to be causing the buffering issues or is it more likely to be upload/download speeds?

Cheers,
TIMMEH!!!
 

mrv153

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Mar 14, 2020
35
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Before you look for server issues for hours, install speedtest container using plexguide and run it on the TV/hardware client. I had also issues with 90-100 Mbps bitrates and noticed my TV got only 20 mbit down. Now I switched to a apple TV 4k and get full speed. Everything works now perfectly.
Pls notice for a 90 mbps video you need at least 120-150 mbit speed to have some buffer.
 

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