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Deiteq

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Hi all!

If you are like me and looking for a cross between a dedicated server and a vps that's cheap then root servers are the way to go!:)

I've been with Netcup for a few months now granted I was using it as a test server for this project so never fully put it to work as at the time I was using ZX Play (ZX Host) server to run Plex and Emby on.

Now that I got rid of my ZX Play server (due to their mistakes and I don't recommend them I'm sorry to say:() I have started to use my RS 2000 G7 SE 60GB SSD server, it only costs €16.99 per month and I used a discount voucher when I joined which gave me 5% off EDIT: it was actually €5 off my first order....plus you get 30 day money back guarantee if you don't like it so might as well!;)

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If you do decide to try them then go for the SAS drive option as I have found 60GB to be very limiting if you plan to use Plex as well as Usenet.
This is due to Usenet unpacking the downloads and Plex metadata growth!
Update Note: I now have the RS 2000 G7 SE 480GB SAS server and can say that I'm very happy with it, I am only using the 60GB SSD version for testing purposes until the cancellation period has finished!

They do have an average bandwidth of 200Mbit/s which is plenty for my case use although when testing I found I have more than double that!
That said, if you use an average bandwidth over 80Mbit/s for more then 15mins then they may throttle you back so that it doesn't disadvantage other customers!
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But if you are using Usenet then downloads run pretty quick so you shouldn't ever hit the limit....and if you are concerned then you can change the settings in sab or nzbget to make sure that you don't go over say 70Mbit/s as the other 10Mbit/s is reserved for the RClone move script.
Update Note: Running torrents with this is not advised, but if you are still keen to use torrents then definitely set the speed limit to 70Mbit/s or lower depending on if you plan to use Plex or Emby a lot!;)

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So if you are interested in trying them out then you can redeem one of the voucher codes below from here!:D Or here for the pre-translated version but more expensive!
Correction thought it was 5% off the first order but it's actually €5 off, apologies to those I've accidentally misled:oops: but it's a better deal!;)
Here's a list of current available €5 off discount voucher codes to use:-
36nc15175117160 36nc15209406580 36nc15217268350
36nc15175117161
36nc15209406581 36nc15217268351
36nc15175117162
36nc15209406582 36nc15217268352
36nc15175117163
36nc15209406583 36nc15217268353
36nc15175117164 36nc15209406584 36nc15217268354
36nc15175117165 36nc15209406585 36nc15217268355
36nc15175117166 36nc15209406586 36nc15217268356
36nc15175117167 36nc15209406587 36nc15217268357
36nc15175117168 36nc15209406588 36nc15217268358
36nc15175117169 36nc15209406589 36nc15217268359

If none of the voucher codes work then let me know and I'll get some more, I will try to update this list from time to time!;)


EDIT: Also for those wanting to use it or any German server as a torrenting machine then make sure that you set up VPN as those companies will follow the law to the letter!:geek:

EDIT 2: When you put in an order they normally call you to confirm you are who you say you are....I did mine in the evening and got called the next day....pretty straight forward.

EDIT 3: You have the right to cancel the contract without reason within 14 days via email, letter or fax. I just cancelled my test RS1000 server via email and I pay my invoices via paypal (I didn't pay my invoice until after cancelling) so got an instant refund that way....Although another member here went for the 12 month contract deal which caused him a headache when trying to cancel, so try it out on a month by month plan first to see if you like it!;)
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EDIT 4: My set up process for a new Netcup server:-
When you first get your server login details it will have Debian installed automatically on it, so to change it to Ubuntu you need go to you SCP (Server Control Panel) click on Media, then Images and choose Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
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Then I chose Minimal
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And finally One Big Partition
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Ubuntu install process - these are the commands I use for first run of netcup server:-
## change root password
passwd
## setup new user - Note I use deiteq as my username so change that to anything you like here
useradd -m -d /home/deiteq deiteq
usermod -aG sudo deiteq
passwd deiteq
## choose password
su deiteq
sudo usermod -s /bin/bash deiteq
cd ~
## change language settings for UK english
update-locale LANG="en_GB.UTF8" LANGUAGE="en_GB:en"
# this should be set for nano ~/.bashrc
echo 'LANG="en_GB.UTF-8"' >> ~/.bashrc
And I normally reboot after this and set up fail2ban ban hammer and UFW to be extra secure!;)
 
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Deiteq

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It's like a vps with root access and you don't share resources or hard drives.
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That's cool. Wonder how they implement that on their end :D
I don't really have a clue...maybe kvm or xen or they have thousands of nuc's!:p
 

barryclamsworth

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How does the SAS drive integrate with the PlexGuide scripts? Is it straightforward, or does it come with the same complications of a second hard drive?
 
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How does the SAS drive integrate with the plexguide scripts? Is it straightforward, or does it come with the same complications of a second hard drive?
Works the same, as Ubuntu will be installed on it, although I think when they first activate the server it comes with Debian so best to go to the media section of you CCP and install Ubuntu and use the entire disk!;)
 
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Deiteq

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Thank you. I'll probably give this a try. I think I misunderstood and it is actually a 60GB SSD OR a 480GB SAS not a 60GB OS disk AND 480GB data disk.
Ah yes, sorry it's either or....don't go for the SSD version though unless it's 120gb and over!;)
 

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Thank you, I've put in an order but it is being reviewed first. Will see what I get in the morning.

For anyone else considering, it seems far better to use google translate than view the english site, different offerings, 13 Euro per month with 12 month contract.
 
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Deiteq

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Thank you, I've put in an order but it is being reviewed first. Will see what I get in the morning.

For anyone else considering, it seems far better to use google translate than view the english site, different offerings, 13 Euro per month with 12 month contract.
Yeah I just went for a month by month contract as it wasn't too expensive!
I ordered mine in the evening and the next day I got a call from them confirming details.
 

neik

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@Deiteq, I have been looking at NetCup as well but I have read a lot that german providers aren't that good for regarding moving stuff.

So, you have been using Usenet. Have you also used One-Click-Hoster or torrents? Did have any issue so far, regarding dcma stuff?
 

Datamonkeh

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@Deiteq Do you don't have any problems with Plex when you stream the movies over the German Server? I download the movies on my home computer and upload it then to Google Drive
DCMA isn't an issue as you're not publicly sharing if using news, torrents obviously use a VPN. Other than that it's all down to the peering/routing/connection speed/bit-rate - have a look at the 'Post Your Benchmarks' server thread for speed test indications.
 
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Deiteq

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@Deiteq, I have been looking at NetCup as well but I have read a lot that german providers aren't that good for regarding moving stuff.

So, you have been using Usenet. Have you also used One-Click-Hoster or torrents? Did have any issue so far, regarding dcma stuff?
Well usenet is protected as I use ssl ports and if I do use torrents then I'll use the vpn (PIA) version in the beta menu, but to be totally honest I haven't done much downloading lately as I've been busy with the project.
It's true German providers are more strict, but as long as you cover your backside you should be ok!;)
Also I use RClone Encrypt!
 
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Deiteq

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@Deiteq Do you don't have any problems with Plex when you stream the movies over the German Server? I download the movies on my home computer and upload it then to Google Drive
No, no problems streaming, I am testing the RS1000 at the mo and find it's struggling with trancoding subtitles...but works great if you don't need them as it will direct play!
But at the same time I am using RClone Encrypt so that could be protecting me further just in case!:p
 

kalyway

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#19
I do want to add a note about their refund policy.... It's a bit difficult and kinda a hassle. They do accept refunds within 30 days, however, you need to make a request via a letter OR a fax. I ended up sending a fax and once I opened up a ticket (the day after I believe) they responded to me quickly and gave me my full refund.

Overall, not bad with the timeliness but it can be a hassle needing to send an eFax just for a refund. That is all. Would recommend them otherwise!
 

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Do one of you want to be a reporter in server review hunting? :D Title can be server hunter lol, jk
 
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